{"id":8154,"date":"2022-11-25T20:30:49","date_gmt":"2022-11-26T01:30:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/?p=8154"},"modified":"2025-11-06T20:30:48","modified_gmt":"2025-11-07T01:30:48","slug":"keyboards-backlit-tkl","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/2022\/11\/25\/keyboards-backlit-tkl\/","title":{"rendered":"Keyboards \u2013 Full Sized, Compact Full Sized, Tenkeyless (TKL), Compact Tenkeyless, Compact &#038; Mini\u2026then Backlit, Wired, Wireless (2.4Ghz Dongle receiver), Bluetooth, etcetera etcetera etcetera!?!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-8155 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/keyboards-2.jpg\" alt=\"Four backlit keyboards tested in 2021 during search for the perfect TKL keyboard\" width=\"498\" height=\"243\" \/><\/p>\n<p>(11\/6\/2025 <strong>UPDATE<\/strong>: This was an old post from my old Linux Newbie blog that I moved over to here)<\/p>\n<p>I never realized that keyboards came in <em><u>sooooooooooooo<\/u><\/em> many versions \u2018n styles!? How many people actually use the number pad on a keyboard? I don\u2019t ever recall using it on any of my keyboards, but there it was, always occupying 3.25+ inches of Prime Desktop Real-estate!?! For the past few years, I have had 2-3 of them on my Desktop, which adds up to about 6.5-9.75++ inches of Prime Desktop Real-estate being used for number pads that I\u2019ve never used.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2018<em>If you don\u2019t think that lighting is important, then just close your eyes.<\/em>\u2019<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Also, for the past few years, I\u2019ve had problems getting the right amount of light for typing, and then getting the right amount of light when not typing. Always seems too much, or too little, or too much glare off the keyboard. The letters, symbols, &amp; numbers on my most used keys always seem to \u2018<em>Disappear<\/em>\u2019 somehow, and I have fixed them wid stick-on replacements that seemed to reflect all kinds of <em>light \u2018n glare<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>So, after not noticing keyboard problems for about 26 year, I gradually started noticing problems a few year ago!?!<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-8264\" src=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/72287-keyboards-2.jpg?w=616\" sizes=\"(max-width: 498px) 100vw, 498px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/72287-keyboards-2.jpg 498w, https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/72287-keyboards-2.jpg?w=400&amp;h=195 400w\" alt=\"\" data-attachment-id=\"8264\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/keyboards-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/72287-keyboards-2.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"498,243\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;Seaberry&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1564818039&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"keyboards 2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/72287-keyboards-2.jpg?w=498\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/72287-keyboards-2.jpg?w=498\" \/>On <a href=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/karmis-daily-blog-log\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><em>7\/24\/2021<\/em><\/strong><\/a> I ordered my first keyboard w\/o a number pad \u2018n was \u201cBacklit\u201d \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B08HLGD3PG\/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;th=1\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>VELOCIFIRE TKL02WS<\/strong><\/a> 87 Key Wireless. Has become my main keyboard\u2026Backlit\u2026wireless <em><u>and\/or<\/u><\/em> wired\u2026\u2019<em>Clickity<\/em>\u2019 Mechanical Keyboard that I quickly got use to the \u2018<em>Clickity<\/em>\u2019 sound. Love this keyboard! Footprint is about 14.25\u201d x 5.25\u201d vs old Logitech\u2019s 17.375\u201d x 5.75\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>On <a href=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/karmis-daily-blog-log\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><em>8\/03\/2021<\/em><\/strong><\/a> ordered a <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.newegg.com\/Perixx-PERIBOARD-42-11684-USB\/p\/0GA-0038-00264?Item=9SIA2J2C6T1363\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Perixx PERIBOARD-429 US Wired Mini Backlit Keyboard<\/a><\/strong> \u2013 Thin and Silent Scissor Keys. No need for a primary keyboard, and its location was OK for a wired one. Two computers, up against the wall, and one stacked on top of the other so they easily share keyboard \u2018n mouse that are plugged into a <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.newegg.com\/sabrent-hb-umn4-usb\/p\/0J2-0066-00015?Item=9SIAME8AJ15631&amp;quicklink=true\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sabrent Mini 4-Port USB<\/a> rotating hub. 11.10\u2033 x 5.32\u2033 footprint, and an excellent keyboard for my testing \u2018n such (\u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/buy-low-or-byoc-build-your-own-computer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>CM130<\/em><\/a>\u2018 &amp; \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/buy-low-or-byoc-build-your-own-computer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Antec Jr.<\/em><\/a>\u2018). Love this keyboard!<\/p>\n<p>On <a href=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/karmis-daily-blog-log\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><em>8\/07\/2021<\/em><\/strong><\/a> ordered a <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07TC6D6PX\/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Arteck HB220B Universal Backlit<\/strong><\/a> 7-Colors &amp; Adjustable Brightness Multi-Device Slim Portable Wireless Bluetooth. Super thin wid no legs \u2018n a 10.67\u201d x 5.91\u201d footprint. Had to buy a dongle for it because my PC\u2019s don\u2019t have Bluetooth (<em>my laptops have Bluetooth<\/em>). Bluetooth is new to me \u2018n it has \u2018<em>Suked<\/em>\u2019 so far. Keyboards should be \u2018<em>Plug &amp; Play<\/em>\u2019 simple \u2013 this one almost got tossed into trash, after I found it won\u2019t boot into BIOS or the Boot Menu (<em>or I haven\u2019t found how!?<\/em>). It\u2019s sorta nice tho, and just a tertiary keyboard that needs to stay outta the way until I need it, <em><u>which it does<\/u><\/em>. Windows \u2018n Linux recognize it, and the computer\/s I use it on don\u2019t really need to boot BIOS or Boot Menu (<em>will temporarily plug the <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.newegg.com\/Perixx-PERIBOARD-42-11684-USB\/p\/0GA-0038-00264?Item=9SIA2J2C6T1363\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Perixx PERIBOARD-429<\/a> in when needed<\/em>). How do I feel about it? It\u2019s probably the <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.worldwidewords.org\/qa\/qa-red2.htm\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>Red-headed stepchild<\/em><\/strong><\/a> of keyboards\u2026which is why I have set Backlight to light blue \u2018n not red.\u00a0 \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><u>UPDATE 1<\/u><\/strong>: I said the <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07TC6D6PX\/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Arteck HB220B Universal Backlit<\/strong><\/a> keyboard worked wid Linux \u2013 well, <em>sorta works<\/em>. It worked wid Fedora because it doesn\u2019t need a login user\/psw, but it didn\u2019t work wid CentOS Stream because of the login window. This Bluetooth keyboard doesn\u2019t work until it gets to the OS\u2019s desktop. Am not sure if all Bluetooth keyboards are like that, and can\u2019t seem to find much actual info on the subject. I will avoid Bluetooth keyboards in the future, unless they come wid dual ability.<\/li>\n<li><strong><u>UPDATE 2<\/u><\/strong>: Didn\u2019t want to spend any more on keyboards, but making a move from dark \u2018n fading keys on a 17+++\u201d full-sized keyboard requires research, experimenting &amp; money. Just purchased a <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07VRJ8Y4Y\/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Velocifire TKL71WS<\/strong> <\/a>71-Key Tenkeyless Compact Size Gaming Keyboard with Brown Switches &amp; Ice Blue Backlit for $50.28 (<em>wid tax \u2018n free shipping<\/em>). I like the VELOCIFIRE TKL02WS that I have, but wanted smaller \u2013 the TKL71WS is <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.velocifiretech.com\/product\/velocifire-tkl71ws-wireless-mk\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">13 x 4 x 1.5 inches<\/a>. A little bigger than I wanted, but am done wid all the searching. The\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07TC6D6PX\/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Arteck HB220B Universal Backlit<\/strong><\/a> keyboard seems more suited for TV, phones \u2018n tablets. i.e. things that don\u2019t require much BIOS and\/or Boot Menu work, and I have already shifted that keyboard to \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/buy-low-or-byoc-build-your-own-computer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Rose<\/em><\/a>\u2018 the TV computer. All 5 PC\u2019s now have (<em>or have easy access to<\/em>) their own Backlit keyboard.<\/li>\n<li><strong><u>UPDATE 3<\/u><\/strong>: 8\/20\/2021 \u2013 The <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07VRJ8Y4Y\/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Velocifire TKL71WS<\/strong> <\/a> is too \u2018busy\u2019 for my secondary board (see 8\/17\/2021 <a href=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/karmis-daily-blog-log\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em><strong>Log<\/strong><\/em><\/a> for more info), so have moved it to the #3 \u2013 \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/linuxnewbiesince1996.wordpress.com\/buy-low-or-byoc-build-your-own-computer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em><strong>InWin<\/strong><\/em><\/a>\u2018 computer. For Linux testing, I use the <a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.computerhope.com\/jargon\/b\/boot_menu.htm\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Boot Menu<\/a> key a <strong>*LOT*<\/strong> \u2018n this board required too much changing for that. Have moved the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/href.li\/?https:\/\/www.newegg.com\/Perixx-PERIBOARD-42-11684-USB\/p\/0GA-0038-00264?Item=9SIA2J2C6T1363\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Perixx PERIBOARD-429 US Wired Mini Backlit Keyboard<\/a><\/strong> back to its original #2 spot\u2026it\u2019s wired, but in that area wired is OK.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Couldn\u2019t find one wid a 2.4G wireless transmission dongle &amp; Backlit, in a Tenkeyless (TKL), or Compact Tenkeyless, or Compact, or Mini\u2026that had scissor-keys or even the membrane \u2018<em>tHiNgIe<\/em>\u2019. Which seemed weird considering all the choices offered in keyboards, IMHO.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(11\/6\/2025 UPDATE: This was an old post from my old Linux Newbie blog that I moved over to here) I never realized that keyboards came in sooooooooooooo many versions \u2018n styles!? How many people actually use the number pad on a keyboard? I don\u2019t ever recall using it on any of my keyboards, but there &#8230; <a title=\"Keyboards \u2013 Full Sized, Compact Full Sized, Tenkeyless (TKL), Compact Tenkeyless, Compact &#038; Mini\u2026then Backlit, Wired, Wireless (2.4Ghz Dongle receiver), Bluetooth, etcetera etcetera etcetera!?!\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/2022\/11\/25\/keyboards-backlit-tkl\/\" aria-label=\"Read more about Keyboards \u2013 Full Sized, Compact Full Sized, Tenkeyless (TKL), Compact Tenkeyless, Compact &#038; Mini\u2026then Backlit, Wired, Wireless (2.4Ghz Dongle receiver), Bluetooth, etcetera etcetera etcetera!?!\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[99,131,290,256,27],"tags":[291],"class_list":["post-8154","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogging-tips","category-hardware","category-keyboards","category-technology","category-testing","tag-keyboards"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8154","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8154"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8154\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8158,"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8154\/revisions\/8158"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8154"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8154"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/karmismusingstech.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8154"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}